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Reply #15 - 09/02/07 at 7:55pm
 
Quote from straycatmom on 09/02/07 at 7:04pm:
I'm called straycatmom for a reason, but I'm overflowing right now.  And I'm sorry, I knew as soon as I typed that it was a mistake.   I don't know what else to say.  Can we just keep open minds about our community?

 
FYI about the board:  I don't know if you really meant the part that said "...as soon as I typed that it was a mistake.", but anyone who posts on the forum has the ability to modify or eve delete their post within 24 hours.  After 24 hours only  the moderators or admins have the ability to do so.
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Reply #16 - 09/03/07 at 2:30pm
 
I really did mean that.  This is not a place for stupid pettiness.  Looking around casually on the site, I'm not seeing a way to do that.  Can you give instructions?  Thanks..
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Reply #17 - 09/03/07 at 2:45pm
 
Cool, I just deleted my previous reply, which was  
Never mind, as soon as I posted that I saw the 'delete' button at the top of the post...  
I could have deleted both, but thought I'd leave it for anyone else who might need the info...  
This is a really good site.  You don't happen to have spell check do you?
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Reply #18 - 09/04/07 at 10:31am
 
Sorry about not responding Bluffparkadmin i actually forgot my password to my email and got frustrated, but you know my wife oleblue and she was there when it happened so you can talk to her, also, do you honestly think the report is going to mention that the officer took their time? or that they didnt want to do the paperwork? of course it should mention all of the other info, but trust me, i might mishear, but i do not  misinform intentionaly. I actually spoke with the attacker's mother. Also I was there for everything after the initial atack. And I believe my sources are very valid, considering one was the victim and the other was my own wife. I just misunderstood what my wife initialy told me about the actions of the officer, but please dont accuse me of being "vauge"
 
 
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Reply #19 - 09/04/07 at 11:00am
 
Quote from spideyman78 on 09/04/07 at 10:31am:
Sorry about not responding Bluffparkadmin i actually forgot my password to my email and got frustrated, but you know my wife oleblue and she was there when it happened so you can talk to her, also, do you honestly think the report is going to mention that the officer took their time? or that they didnt want to do the paperwork? of course it should mention all of the other info, but trust me, i might mishear, but i do not  misinform intentionaly. I actually spoke with the attacker's mother. Also I was there for everything after the initial atack. And I believe my sources are very valid, considering one was the victim and the other was my own wife. I just misunderstood what my wife initialy told me about the actions of the officer, but please dont accuse me of being "vauge"


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Status Update:  I have spoken to Asst. Chief Roper this morning.  He will be contacting me later on with more information, which will be posted.
 
The term "vague" was not meant in a derogatory way.  When posts are made on the forum, there is no method of filtering out what is truth or fiction.  We work very hard in delivering a forum to Bluff Park that contains as much factual information as possible (without mentioning names, etc.).  You are more than welcome to PM me should you have further questions and/or comments.
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Reply #20 - 09/11/07 at 9:29am
 
Update:
 
On Monday, September 10 I received a call from Asst. Chief Roper regarding the incident mentioned in the beginning of this topic.  He interviewed both officers who responded to the call, including the one who was already at the Bluff Park sub-station.  The incident occurred as follows:
 
Victim leaves restaurant and is struck from behind by suspect.  Suspect continues striking victim, then goes into vehicle in parking lot.  Victim's friends go to sub-station and knock on door and officer exits.  Victim's friends inform officer of event and officer approaches vehicle with suspect inside.  Suspect exits vehicle, mutters something to the effect that victim called him "crazy" and places hands behind his back, signifying that he is aware that he did something wrong and will be placed under arrest, which he is.
Victim is treated at scene by paramedics and released.  Suspect is taken to Public Safety Center and victim is told to go to PS Center to swear out a warrant.
 
The above would be the basic release as to what happened.  Obviously there is more to it, but this is the "sterile" version that omits names, addresses, emotions, etc.
 
According to the original poster, the victim had to go to the hospital at a later time since the injuries became more serious.  When Asst. Chief Roper was informed of this (yesterday) he suggested that the charges, which were a misdemeanor, could be elevated to a felony.
 
Roper did explain a couple of things that we should all know.  
 
First, regarding the Bluff Park Sub-Station:  The sub-station was placed in Bluff Park after the community asked the city for it.  It opened on December 7, 2006.  The sub-station was never meant to be manned 24/7.  It is meant as a place for officers to write reports, make phone calls, take a quick break, etc.  Consider the alternative:  if the sub-station was not there, the 30 Beat officer (Bluff Park is in Hoover Police Zone 30, also called 30 Beat) would have to travel down to Highway 31 and then make their way to one of three locations to do what they could do at the Bluff Park sub-station.  The drive down to Hwy. 31 and the return to Bluff Park could take more than 30 minutes, which are 30 minutes that Bluff Park is left without police presence.  So, in a nutshell, the sub-station was never meant to be manned at all times.  It just so happened that an officer was there at the time of the incident.
 
Second, regarding the incident.  The initial charge was a misdemeanor.  If an officer does not witness a crime which is a misdemeanor, the victim must swear out a warrant against the suspect, which then give the police officer the right to arrest the suspect.  This puts a burden on the victim, as he or she must travel down to the Public Safety Center, go in front of a magistrate, fill out paperwork and swear out the warrant.  Keep in mind that this is not Hoover PD's policy, it is State of Alabama law.  As stupid as it may sound, it is the law.  Although there are certain exceptions to this law, this case is not one of them.
 
This was an unfortunate incident which revealed a number of things to us, but it is also an isolated incident.  One thing is for sure, though, it was not an incident that went unnoticed by Bluff Park.  In no way are we saying that we could not use more officers in Bluff Park.  To the contrary, our officers are too spread out as it is.  The current 30 Beat is too large.  It needs to be cut in half and two beats need to be created out of it.  Asst. Chief Roper indicated that in order for that to happen, five new officers need to be hired, as that is how many it takes to man a beat 24/7 (3 regular and 2 during off days).  This is something that we need to contact our council members about.  This issue was brought up in passing to State Representative Paul DeMarco last night also, and we'll have more on the topic soon.
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